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Grateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1977-03-18

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Grateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1977-03-18




Set 1

Promised Land, Mississippi Half Step, It's All Over Now, Sugaree, Minglewood Blues, Peggy-O, Cassidy, Scarlet Begonias-> Fire On The Mountain

Set 2

Samson & Delilah, Brown Eyed Women, Good Lovin', Ship of Fools, Estimated Prophet, Terrapin Station-> Alhambra-> Drums-> Not Fade Away-> Saint Stephen-> Around & Around, E: Uncle John's Band

Note: First "Fire On The Mountain"


Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Venue Winterland Arena
Location San Francisco, CA

Source Recording Info: SBD -> Master Reel -> Dat -> CD; Mastering Info:CD -> Samplitude Professional v11.2.1 -> FLAC; All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller
Transferred by Charlie Miller

Notes

Notes:
-- Set 2 is seamless
-- This is a remaster of shnid=79098
-- Terrapin Station includes At A Siding
-- Numerous flaws were cleaned up
-- Thanks to Matt Smith for the patch source
-- Thanks to Joe B. Jones for his help pitch correcting the patch source

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Reviewer: Tommyboy1749 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 19, 2016
Subject: Take a Mississippi Half-Step Back
I want to respectfully disagree with a reviewer who didn't think too much of thus version of "Mississippi Half-Step." While Garcia misses the "If all you've got to live for" verse, he recovers and the extend jam leading into the "Across the Rio-Grand-e-o" is atypically raw and fuzzy for '77. The sarcastic infections on "the cue ball's" verse are equally atypical. The crowd signals its vociferous approval at the close--the raucous applause boiling over into the soundboard. A brief mental note: Check out the "Loser" from the next night. Garcia's vocal is overflowing with determined soul that still suspects fate might still have the last word. March may be only the beginning of spring, but it is the beginning of Spring '77.
Reviewer: Mind Wondrin - favoritefavorite - May 19, 2016
Subject: Home venue

Just two shows after Swing and before the monster spring tour, you'd be excused for expecting one of the greats. But this show is known for two things: The 1st Fire and the "most complete" Terrapin. What that means is they played At a Siding. It's an historical curiosity for those reasons, but pretty much a band practice and not the best show of the run. This is the 1st of 3 Winterland runs in '77 (but not the best run either). A contender for sloppiest show of '77, there are lyrical snafus and lost places all the way through. It's the polar opposite of 2/26, 5/8, 5/21, 5/22, 6/8 or 12/30.

First Set. Bobby starts in the wrong key for Promised Land and it doesn't get completely back on the rails until the outro . Half Step Mississippi is a straight trainwreck - the first half off kilter except for Phil. When it does settle Jer makes a valiant effort. It's All Over Now is lethargic. Halfway through Sugaree come the first sparks but there's still loose stitching for Minglewood. The set high point is Peggy-O with a great final solo, then it's way downhill again. Now it's Jer that has to search all over for the song in Cassidy. Bobby is luckless again for Scarlet Begonias, losing the chords while Jer loses the lyrics. They tranny into the first-ever Fire on the Mountain, feeling their way. You don't expect the live test to be an ace version, yet it's the tightest they play all set. It's interesting that they were recording Terrapin at the time, working out new material, yet Fire would be held back for the next album.

Second Set. Samson & Delilah has astonishing work on the final solo and the band starts tighter than the 1st set, suddenly gelling (albeit briefly) for a great Brown Eyed Women. It's back to sloppy again for Ship of Fools, except again for the end solo. This is only the 3rd Estimated and it's improving - 2mos later it's a monster. Bobby was still using the "ascend on wings of flame". It was played every night of the run - in fact it was played every night until October! 40 shows in a row! It's also the 3rd Terrapin and the only time they played the At a Siding section - however Hunter had not written the lyrics yet (it used to show up as "Alhambra" filler in the days of B & P). The next 2 nights they dropped a chunk of Terrapin, trying it both in the 1st Set and as an encore. They soon changed "wall within the fire creaks" and had it all nailed the next month. If your thang is long Not Fades, then this is a whopper, and the band is the most consistent of the night coming out of Drums. Stephen is nice, Around & Around is also long and Keith is great. All is lost for Uncle John's, however, with everybody losing place.

1st Set:  D
2nd Set: C
Overall = 2 Stars

Highlights:
Brown Eyed Women - Where it all falls into place
Terrapin>At a Siding - Worth hearing once

SOURCES: The 123285 miller is best. However Promised Land is from an AUD and is pitched way too slow (it needs+3.5%). NFA, Fire and Ship have correctly pitched AUD patches. The beginning of UJB is cut (onto the tail of previous track).
Reviewer: Cigars66! - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - January 15, 2016
Subject: 1977 Wow!
This is a great concert. In particular, Terrapin Station and the songs following it, great jam.

This concert reinforces my opinion that 1977 is GDs best year.
Reviewer: Ivartshiva - favorite - October 6, 2015
Subject: It's slow
Tape must've been running fast - it's a half step slow
Reviewer: Awenindo - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 18, 2014
Subject: One of the best versions of Terrapin
IMHO, this is THE Terrapin! (Can someone recommend a few other versions from around this time period?) The show's just brilliant, start to finish. Thanks again Charlie Miller for yet another great one!
Reviewer: robinrunaround - - July 17, 2014
Subject: mississippi half-bake
I never heard them screw up the lyric portion of this one so badly. Jerry forgets vs. 2, they keep the jam from stalling, then drop into the chorus instrumental early, Keith leads the way back, Jerry still can't remember the words, then manages an inverted version of vs. 3. It leads to some interesting interplay as they struggle to keep it together, not usually that tough with these tighter compositions. And of course there's the usual treat as they make up for the fuck up with a nice, long, unhurried, experimental closing jam.
Reviewer: Go Faster, Get Rounder - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 10, 2014
Subject: Sounds Killer
Charlie --

This is a gem. Thank you.
Reviewer: njpg - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 19, 2014
Subject: -
Brilliant. One of the great lost treasures of yesteryear: no audience tapes unfortunately, but this sounds great.

Caution jam in NFA!!! Brief, but distinctly evocative of the best '67 Cautions.
Reviewer: ralberty - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 19, 2014
Subject: To Cool To Bluff
nice,very nice.. didn't get to C them till May 7th they certainly weir on fire even back in March. what a spectacular run. wish Bobby would put Scarlet / Fire back In rotation .. while weir young Bobby. Farr Out ...
Reviewer: doodle32 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - June 18, 2013
Subject: The Sanbernadino Tape
I used to have a cassette copy of this show. It was a soundboard without the drop out to audience during the epic NFA climax; which is really strange as every copy here is spliced with audience.Anyhoo this was my all time favorite back in the day. **This has the all time best version of Around & Around they ever did! Hands down.
Reviewer: halfaday - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 19, 2013
Subject: super !!!
best i ever heard !! i trip to this tape for weeks on end (~);}
Reviewer: CaliforniaFred - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 3, 2013
Subject: Solid Performance
The Boys at their best from the first note to the last.
Reviewer: grateful greensky - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 3, 2013
Subject: to get to Terrapin
Grate work Mr.Charlie! always was a favorite cassette to listen to back when and it sounded fair but this is outstanding. don't know why this is the only version of Terrapin with ''at a siding'' they can do no wrong,even when things de-rail they always pull off a little magic to get back on track. anyways a good reason to add this one to your own vault.thanx to the Band,Tapers,sharers,and remaster's
Reviewer: Chris29 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - January 19, 2013
Subject: Winterland!!!
Winterland Arena avait une excellente acoustique et le Grateful Dead y a réalisé d'excellentes performances .Ici encore un concert superbe, très bien enregistré où j'apprécie entres autres l'intro de Not Fade Away.

Un grand merci à Charlie Miller pour ce super travail!!!
Reviewer: PigpenLives - - January 9, 2013
Subject: Rarity At Least For Me
I've been a deadhead for 25 years and have never had a decent sounding copy of this show. Now here it is in fantastic quality. Thank you very much!
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